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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 07:46:19 PM »
Have you tried just giving her just the basic diet in her cage and saving any treats for her while shes out of the cage, a bit of bribery goes a long way
YES I MEANT THIS WHEN I SAID ABOUT LETTING HER OUT AND ARM URSELF WITH TREATS

SHE MAY JUST BE ACTING OUT COZ SHE IS SPOILT, SO IF U WITHOLD HER TREATS TILL SHE'S OUT SHE MAY LIKE U MORE COZ SHE KNOWS UR GONNA GIVE HER NICE THINGS :dontknow:
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 03:29:04 AM »
Updates;
So far I'm buying/making toys for Kancho's new cage and letting her out when i have the time. I still have to wear protection as she keeps attacking my face. i also have to take a break every 20 minutes or so for some fresh air and recharge on treats. perching on my shoulder and resting on my head is what she still does, she attacks right away when i look at her and she catches my eye. I'm still trying to get close to her by arming myself with treats

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 03:31:45 AM »
have u stopped giving her treats in her cage, and just been giving her chipmunk mix, and only saving the treats for playtime?
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 03:35:56 AM »
also if u'v not tried already, give her cage a good spring clean so she has to make it home again, and try moving her toys n stuff around in the cage, it might keep her occupied and calm her down :dontknow:
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 04:46:10 AM »
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I still have to wear protection as she keeps attacking my face

This sounds very bad and dangerous if she gets your eye  :(

When I get attacked it is hands they tend to go for and fingers, I've never had my face attacked except a couple of babies bit my ear a few times or I get accidental scratches on my face when they misjudge their landing and jump on my face instead of my head. Most of these have been my fault however because I have moved when they are in mid jump.
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 10:43:47 AM »
update;

I think arming myself with treats idea is working! Her aggresivness seems to have reduced and just today, she rubbed her body on my gloved hand and a while later she curled her tail around herself and sat on my hand for aout 5 mins. I think this is at least a start  :happy2:

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 01:15:44 PM »
aw thats brilliant :icon_thumleft: keep it up and i know its hard but try not to give her treats in her cage until she has properly calmed down, as this wud only make urs and her progress take a step backwards

by the way what kind of treats are u giving her, and what does she really like?

as this site may be able to suggest some others she mite like :dontknow:
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 07:36:36 PM »
I nipped it in the bud by showing him, who's the boss, I put my finger in his mouth and he stopped biting me.
How on earth does one get their finger into a chipmunk's mouth?

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2012, 01:59:17 AM »
I nipped it in the bud by showing him, who's the boss, I put my finger in his mouth and he stopped biting me.
How on earth does one get their finger into a chipmunk's mouth?

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2012, 11:38:26 AM »
for the past couple of weeks, Knacho's cage was moved into my room. I learned a lot more about Kancho while she was my roomate. I learned that she used the wheel a lot and she had a variety of places to hide her treats in her cage. Just recently she started playing in the box of sand I gave her about a month ago.
Her endless chirping stopped amd she doesn't try to bite me when i get my hands close to her cage unlike before.

But when I let her loose, she goes berserk almost everytime i move. I avoid making sudden movement around her, i always did, but just gently lifting my leg is enough to make her go insane. That's when the biting stars, she bit through my glove and gave me a crack on my nail. Since then I wear a much thicker glove, one of those gloves used to pick up hot pots.
Other than that, I learned she's happier than I expected her to be.
I also get the feeling that she became obsessed with hiding her treats, I mean when I'm lying on my bed, she hides them under my arm, legs in my hair too. That's sth she never used to do. Her favortie places for hiding treats in my room were under the blankets/pillow/sheets and sometimes, in my pants.

Just today, I moved her back into her old room (The spare room in our house used to be kancho's room, nobody uses that room so it's pretty cold in there). All the toys i planned for her new cage is done so with plans to build it today, I moved her back into the old room. I feel bad though, I actually enjoyed having her in my room.

the cage probably will be done by tonight or tomorrow. I have questions btw, Once the cage it done, how long do i have to keep myself from letting her out? Give her time to get used to her new home and stuff. I heard it will reduce her viciousness.

If Jennyb is right and kancho's aggresivness comes from the weather, do I continue letting her out with treats and protection gears? 

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2012, 12:39:51 PM »
i would keep her in her new cage for about a week if i were u :dontknow:
is her new cage being built in her old room or is she going back in ur room??
as she mite like the company with u :dontknow:
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2012, 01:50:41 PM »
Indyfan - Keep us posted.  We are happy you are not giving up.  Kancho's behavior is interesting that she is using your body to hide her treats and then at the same time, she is startled when you move. 

I am trying to tame Lilly.  She is a bit skitish, she will run away from me at times.  I can't handle her but she is not aggressive.  It sounds like Kancho views you as a threat which is why she is so scared when you move and she attacks.  Perhaps after you move her in her new cage, you can start the bonding process with treats only given thru the new cage.  I have tried a new method suggested by an animal lover cousin/friend, starvation works.  I know it sounds cruel, but by withholding food, will make them more responsive to you.  Besides they have their stashes if they really get hungry.  This method is slowly working for me bonding with Lilly.

Pinkpill - As far as sticking your finger in the chipmunk's mouth, I was able to do it with Buddy.  If it became necessary, I would do it to Lilly.  It is hard for them to bite down when they have a large object in their mouth. 

Indyfan - perhaps you can try this much later with a thicker glove to stop Kancho from biting you.  the first thing you need to do is gain her trust back.  And chipmunks don't like change so be patient.  Settle Kancho into her new cage and give her time to get used to it.  Then start bonding with her thru the cage.

Well that is my American two cents for now. 

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2012, 03:54:54 AM »
sorry I havn't posted for a long time :( I finished the cage after 4 hours of labor last week. Kancho's been in the new cage for 9 days now and I haven't let her out for that long. So far Kancho's aggressiveness seems to have disappeared. After moving back into the old room she was again trying to bite me through her cage when i got close. Bite when she was in my room, she was calm in her cage and turned violent when I let her out. She may be calm inside her new cage but I'm sort of afraid she'll be biting again if i let her out.
I gave her a mix of new and old toys with the old ones placed in different places, so far she's not touching any of the toys except the wheel. For 9 days she played on the wheel only, I never saw her digging in the sand or her nest box. Whenever I come in, she begs to let her out, is this normal? I mean Kancho wanting to come out of the cage always made me feel I'm not providing her with enough toys, she never seemed happy enough in her cage, she still does it in her new cage.
These are the updates. Do you guys think I should let her out now or should I keep her inside a little longer?

here's a new video btw, taken right after finishing the cage. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/I-wLSA30k04&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/I-wLSA30k04&rel=0</a>

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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2012, 04:04:07 AM »
the cage looks great :icon_thumleft:
i would try letting her out again now, but if she bites u again put her back in as soon as u can so she knows she's done wrong, then leave her till the next day, and try again, then keep repeating this if she bites again then hopefully she will learn that bitin is wrong,
please keep us informed how she is progressing, or not as the case maybe, but i hopes she does as u both will be much happier :icon_thumleft:

have u still been doing the same thing with her treats?? altho i know u have kept her in the cage for a while, so giving her some treats in there is ok, but wen u start letting her out again carry on only givin her the treats wen she's out :dontknow:
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Re: Kancho's extreme aggressison and insecureness
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2012, 07:32:18 PM »
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How on earth does one get their finger into a chipmunk's mouth?

Sorry for not answering.

Buddy was tame but when he would go thru his aggressive period and start biting, I would just get brave and stick my finger in his mouth.  For some reason, when it is in their mouth almost to the point of gagging, they don't bite down.

I will try this with Lilly once she is more trusting of me and if she tries to bite me.
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